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Ionis Pharmaceuticals
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therapy | Q1 2024 | Q4 2023 | Q1 2023 | y/y |
Spinraza royalty | $38 | $62 | $50 | -24% |
Wainua royalty | $1 | $0 | $0 | na% |
Tegsedi + Waylivra | 9 | 9 | 7 | 29% |
R&D collaboration | 49 | 179 | 39 | 26% |
Wainua joint dev | 11 | 67 | 24 | -54% |
Non-GAAP numbers: net income negative $112 million, sequentially down from $20 million, and down from negative $97 million year-earlier. No non-GAAP EPS given.
Cash ended at $2.21 billion, down sequentially from $2.3 billion. Debt was $1.2 billion in convertible senior notes. Plans to pay off 2024 convertible notes.
Ionis continues to develop technologies that allow RNA therapies to almost any part of the body, including inhaled agents.
Ionis has a pipeline of about 45 potential drugs, with 12 in clinical development. A growing number are wholly-owned.
GAAP Operating expense was $269 million, consisting of $2 million for cost of goods sold; $214 million for R&D and $53 million for selling, general and administrative. Operating income was negative $150 million. Other income was $7 million. Income tax $0 million.
Q&A selective summary:
Olezarsen patients that could roll over to commercial drug? Most rolled over. Expanded access program just getting started. Donidalorsen similarly.
Wainua access? Going well, led by Astra-Zeneca. Payer landscape is positive.
Olezarsen timeline? Expect to hear from FDA 60 days after our April submission. Then should get a PDUFA date. Do not expect an Ad Com. They will also decide on a priority review. We have marketing capabilities in place, also data analytics and medical affairs group. We learned from the Wainua launch. FCS is rare, a small number of patients and doctors, so an appropriate sales force.
Donidalorsen is mainly a switch market. About 20,000 patients US + EU. Focus on durability and reduced rates of attacks, plus longer between dosing.
Path to positive cash flow? The late stage pipeline is a multi-billion revenue opportunity. But it will take a few years. We are not that far away from being cash flow positive.
Non-genetic ALS? This first study is mainly a dosing and safety study. With Biogen.
The hereditary angioedema market is a dissatisfied one, with patients often switching among the current therapies.
Cardiomyopathy, competitor data readout? Blinded event rates in our trial are tracking well, both mortality and hospitalizations. No changes to our plans. Our timing for reading out the study could still change, but is currently 2026.
ION582 for Angelman syndrom? Biogen has an option, so they could be making the decisions going forward.
We think our Medicare Part D situation for cardiomyopathy is good and should get better as costs to patients decrease.
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